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Has anyone asked the kids in the park to be more respectful? Yes I know some may just mouth off but, then again, they may not but would it hurt to try? Do these kids know that the elderly is now afraid to go there, has anyone told them? Yes it should be obvious but they are not thinking that way. I am sure they would hate to think of their own grand parents afraid to be walking around there, or even there own younger siblings. I am entering this conversation late and sorry If I am asking something that has already been addressed.
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It's not always the parents fault. I have raised 3 boys, 2 are very respectful, and one is one of those zeros you speak of. All 3 were raised in the exact same way.
So you're not batting 1000, 2 out of 3 sounds like a pretty good record considering the influences of the world today. Parenting skills certainly play a factor, and many strike out all together.
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"The Parks and Recreation Commission met with selectmen to again ask for their support in trying to rid Central Park of an escalating number of incidents including vandalism, harassment and disorderly behavior by a number of teens."
Item story (scroll to bottom): http://www.telegram.com/article/2010102 … /10290307/
It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes.
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I must say this is what they need to do, But the one word the kids want to here is a four letter one and no it's not what you think... it's the word "FREE" that is something the parks and rec. doesn't do. The kids hang where they can, because it's free for them to do it. You use to hang out on high st. and have business' call the cops and kick you out for loitering. So where can they hang out and not get kicked out, but the park. Look at the options they have Turini's corner ... no, they get kicked out. The tracks ...no trespassing on R/R property.The new dame field. .. no. Have you seen the court and the area lately, plus they are kicked out from the area. The skate park that no ones want to claim is, A big NO!!! Location, and the appearance of it. The gym... well, do you have money everyday to go there. I know, I don't. Plus, the gym is only open at certain times and and seasons.
Also, the parks and rec. needs to stop the way they treat the families that use the park. I was told by Daria to leave the park, because we were playing with a large plastic ball. When I ? it, she told me in a rude tone that is why they have dame field... play ball down there. Really, what is a large plastic ball going to kill. That is why when I hear about the kids and the park. I know that some of them maybe to blame about the rudeness, but i also remember what Daria said to my family and how I was treated as an adult with kids. So if they're given it, they will give it back.
I also hear from some, the seniors need this and they need that. The little kids need this, to give them something to do. Have you forgotten the teens and what they need. This is an long time issue and with the times they do change. The needs are different for the generations.
OK, I'm done writing about this subject. I have so many things to say about this. But, I have my own problems on my side of the town to get right first, it's more of a trashy subject than this is. For now, I thank you for reading this long winded rant.
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I must say this is what they need to do, But the one word the kids want to here is a four letter one and no it's not what you think... it's the word "FREE" that is something the parks and rec. doesn't do. The kids hang where they can, because it's free for them to do it. You use to hang out on high st. and have business' call the cops and kick you out for loitering. So where can they hang out and not get kicked out, but the park. Look at the options they have Turini's corner ... no, they get kicked out. The tracks ...no trespassing on R/R property.The new dame field. .. no. Have you seen the court and the area lately, plus they are kicked out from the area. The skate park that no ones want to claim is, A big NO!!! Location, and the appearance of it. The gym... well, do you have money everyday to go there. I know, I don't. Plus, the gym is only open at certain times and and seasons.
Also, the parks and rec. needs to stop the way they treat the families that use the park. I was told by Daria to leave the park, because we were playing with a large plastic ball. When I ? it, she told me in a rude tone that is why they have dame field... play ball down there. Really, what is a large plastic ball going to kill. That is why when I hear about the kids and the park. I know that some of them maybe to blame about the rudeness, but i also remember what Daria said to my family and how I was treated as an adult with kids. So if they're given it, they will give it back.
I also hear from some, the seniors need this and they need that. The little kids need this, to give them something to do. Have you forgotten the teens and what they need. This is an long time issue and with the times they do change. The needs are different for the generations.
OK, I'm done writing about this subject. I have so many things to say about this. But, I have my own problems on my side of the town to get right first, it's more of a trashy subject than this is. For now, I thank you for reading this long winded rant.
nice job! well said
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I must say this is what they need to do, But the one word the kids want to here is a four letter one and no it's not what you think... it's the word "FREE" that is something the parks and rec. doesn't do. The kids hang where they can, because it's free for them to do it. You use to hang out on high st. and have business' call the cops and kick you out for loitering. So where can they hang out and not get kicked out, but the park. Look at the options they have Turini's corner ... no, they get kicked out. The tracks ...no trespassing on R/R property.The new dame field. .. no. Have you seen the court and the area lately, plus they are kicked out from the area. The skate park that no ones want to claim is, A big NO!!! Location, and the appearance of it. The gym... well, do you have money everyday to go there. I know, I don't. Plus, the gym is only open at certain times and and seasons.
Also, the parks and rec. needs to stop the way they treat the families that use the park. I was told by Daria to leave the park, because we were playing with a large plastic ball. When I ? it, she told me in a rude tone that is why they have dame field... play ball down there. Really, what is a large plastic ball going to kill. That is why when I hear about the kids and the park. I know that some of them maybe to blame about the rudeness, but i also remember what Daria said to my family and how I was treated as an adult with kids. So if they're given it, they will give it back.
I also hear from some, the seniors need this and they need that. The little kids need this, to give them something to do. Have you forgotten the teens and what they need. This is an long time issue and with the times they do change. The needs are different for the generations.
OK, I'm done writing about this subject. I have so many things to say about this. But, I have my own problems on my side of the town to get right first, it's more of a trashy subject than this is. For now, I thank you for reading this long winded rant.
Excellent points. Very well said!
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I must say this is what they need to do, But the one word the kids want to here is a four letter one and no it's not what you think... it's the word "FREE" that is something the parks and rec. doesn't do. The kids hang where they can, because it's free for them to do it. You use to hang out on high st. and have business' call the cops and kick you out for loitering. So where can they hang out and not get kicked out, but the park. Look at the options they have Turini's corner ... no, they get kicked out. The tracks ...no trespassing on R/R property.The new dame field. .. no. Have you seen the court and the area lately, plus they are kicked out from the area. The skate park that no ones want to claim is, A big NO!!! Location, and the appearance of it. The gym... well, do you have money everyday to go there. I know, I don't. Plus, the gym is only open at certain times and and seasons.
Also, the parks and rec. needs to stop the way they treat the families that use the park. I was told by Daria to leave the park, because we were playing with a large plastic ball. When I ? it, she told me in a rude tone that is why they have dame field... play ball down there. Really, what is a large plastic ball going to kill. That is why when I hear about the kids and the park. I know that some of them maybe to blame about the rudeness, but i also remember what Daria said to my family and how I was treated as an adult with kids. So if they're given it, they will give it back.
I also hear from some, the seniors need this and they need that. The little kids need this, to give them something to do. Have you forgotten the teens and what they need. This is an long time issue and with the times they do change. The needs are different for the generations.
OK, I'm done writing about this subject. I have so many things to say about this. But, I have my own problems on my side of the town to get right first, it's more of a trashy subject than this is. For now, I thank you for reading this long winded rant.
Agreed, and just the tip of the iceberg. I'm getting reports of the kids being scream/hollered at by the CPD using profanity in their faces. Many are not even the skateboarders, just kids hanging out. Hard to complain about the kids swearing, when adults in authority do the same thing. Would we rather have them hanging in the woods, or on the tracks drinking? I know the boys in blue monitor this. I'm letting you know there is two sides to every story. Be warned.....cell phones have video recorders....
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The park is for all and I have seen those kids not allow elderly go by on the walking path. They have to go around them on the grass. If they have no respect for the elderly I can't imagine they would have any respect for the Police and any interaction they may have would probably turn out negitive.
The bent signs, trash all over the area where they sit next to a trash can and the broken fence shows you the kind of person that you dealing with. They should put a camera in the park and charge the kids everytime they drop trash on the ground.
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A camera would show who the few are that are recking it for all. That still doesn't excuse an officer from conducting himself unprofessionally. The majority of the force are great people and a camera would keep them all honest too.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it's broke, fix it only if you can't live without it.
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I was walking at the park last night and picked up some trash that had been left at the corner of Church and Walnut. There were also a group of kids in costume for Halloween who were smoking and were generally oblivious to anyone else around them (standing as a group across the sidewalk when people were trying to walk through), but nothing too bad. The trash was disturbing though. I mean, come on. How much effort is it to throw it in the can?
It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes.
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I was walking at the park last night and picked up some trash that had been left at the corner of Church and Walnut. There were also a group of kids in costume for Halloween who were smoking and were generally oblivious to anyone else around them (standing as a group across the sidewalk when people were trying to walk through), but nothing too bad. The trash was disturbing though. I mean, come on. How much effort is it to throw it in the can?
is this possibly the case of "if we ignore them, it won't be fun anymore and they will quit"? just thinking out loud...
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is this possibly the case of "if we ignore them, it won't be fun anymore and they will quit"? just thinking out loud...
I don't think they are doing it to attract attention. They are teenagers and don't care what others think. I don't mean that as a slam, it's just how it is for a lot of kids at that age. Like I mentioned before, they are oblivious.
It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes.
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Denise Rousseau wrote:is this possibly the case of "if we ignore them, it won't be fun anymore and they will quit"? just thinking out loud...
I don't think they are doing it to attract attention. They are teenagers and don't care what others think. I don't mean that as a slam, it's just how it is for a lot of kids at that age. Like I mentioned before, they are oblivious.
that's probably true....i guess in my case...wishful thinking....i know my son use to go there and hang w/ friends...and oh my gosh play frisbee!...but not sure they do that now that a) most are @ college now...b) those that aren't away, have jobs or cars or both....hopefully this to shall pass....
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I don't think they are bad people at heart just looks like they were not brought up well. Really if someone is walking in the park and you are standing in the path just be pleasant and get out of the way. The trash thing is really odd. I thought the new generation was going to be eco friendly.... As for bending the signs that is just a crime.
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"The question of what to do about skateboarders is not new in Clinton. It was the reason a skateboard park was built next to Vale Street fields two decades ago."
It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes.
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"The question of what to do about skateboarders is not new in Clinton. It was the reason a skateboard park was built next to Vale Street fields two decades ago."
That skateboard park is a disgrace! If we did build it, we need to fix it, It is too dangerous to let kids board there. If one of them falls and gets hurt on the broken wood, then we are all liable.
We really need to address the problem in a different way. Complaining and hoping they all the sudden get manners isn't going to do it
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-Lucille Ball-
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Ken wrote:"The question of what to do about skateboarders is not new in Clinton. It was the reason a skateboard park was built next to Vale Street fields two decades ago."
That skateboard park is a disgrace! If we did build it, we need to fix it, It is too dangerous to let kids board there. If one of them falls and gets hurt on the broken wood, then we are all liable.
We really need to address the problem in a different way. Complaining and hoping they all the sudden get manners isn't going to do it
What if they fall in the park, and get hurt. isn't the town liable there also....
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Ken wrote:"The question of what to do about skateboarders is not new in Clinton. It was the reason a skateboard park was built next to Vale Street fields two decades ago."
That skateboard park is a disgrace! If we did build it, we need to fix it, It is too dangerous to let kids board there. If one of them falls and gets hurt on the broken wood, then we are all liable.
We really need to address the problem in a different way. Complaining and hoping they all the sudden get manners isn't going to do it
Just curious... if the skateboard park was in pristine condition, and a kid fell and hurt himself, wouldn't we still be liable?
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Ken wrote:"The question of what to do about skateboarders is not new in Clinton. It was the reason a skateboard park was built next to Vale Street fields two decades ago."
That skateboard park is a disgrace! If we did build it, we need to fix it, It is too dangerous to let kids board there. If one of them falls and gets hurt on the broken wood, then we are all liable.
We really need to address the problem in a different way. Complaining and hoping they all the sudden get manners isn't going to do it
Well if they don't get manners and they cause a disturbance to other park patrons they should be arrested. Society has rules! You have freedom but blocking others pursuit of freedom is not just rude it is a crime. Bending signs a crime, leaving trash a crime and trying to bully old people by not getting out of the path is also a crime.
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MariahHL wrote:Ken wrote:"The question of what to do about skateboarders is not new in Clinton. It was the reason a skateboard park was built next to Vale Street fields two decades ago."
That skateboard park is a disgrace! If we did build it, we need to fix it, It is too dangerous to let kids board there. If one of them falls and gets hurt on the broken wood, then we are all liable.
We really need to address the problem in a different way. Complaining and hoping they all the sudden get manners isn't going to do it
Well if they don't get manners and they cause a disturbance to other park patrons they should be arrested. Society has rules! You have freedom but blocking others pursuit of freedom is not just rude it is a crime. Bending signs a crime, leaving trash a crime and trying to bully old people by not getting out of the path is also a crime.
This will go on until someone really gets hurt, then something will be done.....
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MariahHL wrote:Ken wrote:"The question of what to do about skateboarders is not new in Clinton. It was the reason a skateboard park was built next to Vale Street fields two decades ago."
That skateboard park is a disgrace! If we did build it, we need to fix it, It is too dangerous to let kids board there. If one of them falls and gets hurt on the broken wood, then we are all liable.
We really need to address the problem in a different way. Complaining and hoping they all the sudden get manners isn't going to do it
Just curious... if the skateboard park was in pristine condition, and a kid fell and hurt himself, wouldn't we still be liable?
Yes they would- Just like we would be liable if an elderly person fell and got hurt in Central Park. The liability lessens however when the parks are not is a state of disrepair.
"I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done."
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"Being that I am a respectful skateboarder, I felt very insulted by the editorial "R-E-S-P-E-C-T" that was published in the Nov. 5 item. The author was generalizing every person who skateboards."
It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes.
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"Two banged up signs allegedly destroyed by youths who have been regularly congregating in Central Park were on display at Wednesday's selectmen's meeting. And that's the tip of the iceberg, according to Mary Luschen, director of the adjacent Corcoran House."
It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes.
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It was said in the Selectman's meeting that approx 6-8 youths are doing this. Not nearly a majority of the young people that are in the park at any given time.
I would hate to see a lynchmob out for the rest of the young people who are there enjoying the park with everyone else and NOT causing damage or being disrespectful. As I can see this turning ugly very quickly.
Maybe some sensitivity training is in order? And, I totally agree with Bill C when he said we need more place for young people to go.
"I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done."
-Lucille Ball-
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I'm not sure that I would agree that we need more places for young people to go. I don't think that's the problem at all. The kids who aren't causing any trouble seem to be able to find places to go and things to do with their time.
I'm pretty sure that the kids who choose to hang out at the park all day do so because there isn't much adult supervision there. And for that reason, I don't think having activities at the Rec center will do much to solve this problem.
If the police were sincerely interested in getting the kids out of there, they would go by at regular intervals. Eventually, the kids would get tired of being hassled and find somewhere else to haunt. But I have a feeling that they'd rather have them there than whatever the alternative may be...
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